My friend Emelia Symington Fedy kicked off her new radio show, Trying To Be Good and we got down and dirty like we always do. How do you tell a spiritual faker from a real light maker? Is there really enough abundance for everyone? How does it work being an introvert AND a public figure? What’s love and shame and cash and hypocrisy got to do with it? Ohhhhh so much.

Listen in. Emelia and I go about things from different ends and get close to the same bright center — real, no bullshit compassion.

Put on the kettle and click here to access the full interview.

Keep the light on,